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Bezness Relations
There are some relationships in
which the beness background is almost
always existing:
- Relationships
with elderly women
Even though the founder of Islamic religion gives a positive example,
which will always be pointed out, the actual number of marriages
between younger men and older women is extremely low. An elderly woman
offers little social acceptance, especially if she cannot become
children anymore.
The financial aspect
plays the major role
here, because an older European woman usually owns a property and/or
got a secure job, and thus constitutes at least for the time needed to
obtain the residence permit a desirable choice.
While not rarely even very young women marry old men, marriages between
a man and a woman who is more than 2 years older than him are extremely
rare and practically happen only with women from western countries.
- Relations with large
women
Even when Tunisian men like to say that they like that the money they
"invest" into their women shall show up on her, there is a big
difference between "chubby" and "obese" - obese women are in Tunisia,
as well as in Europe, a target for bad and asteless jokes and social
acceptance is rather low.
However, such women
are an easy
"victim", because they often have a low self-confidence and are touched
particularly, when an attractive man pretends to show interest in her.
- Relationships
with divorced women
Just as with older women, positive examples from the Islamic religion
are often pointed out, but in reality, the actual interest to marry a
divorced woman is very low and usually only found in the combination of
a quite old man with a divorced young woman.
In addition, such
a relationship can be burdened by the children of another man, because
the acceptance of children of another man is, with Tunisian men, very
low, to say the least.
This results even in
domestic marriages
usually to the case that, when a woman remarries, she will more or less
abandon her children and leave them either with their father or
elsewhere in the family of the woman or the man where they will then be
raised.
Divorced women are,
as well, often seen as an easy
victim, because a clever Beznesser will quickly gain an emotional
access to a single mother who wishes on one hand again to have a
complete family and on the other hand being longed for by a man.
All three groups mentioned above are
preferred
'Bezness" targets, and
members of these groups should keep their eyes particualrly "wide open".
Family visits
Many
European women mistake an invitation to the family of a Tunisian man
and being there introduced as "the future wife" as an act of
seriousness - but it is not.
In most cases, women visits to the
family take place regularly, the family is privy - and there are even
cases in which the Tunisian wife will be presented as a "sister" or
"cousin" of the inviting man.
While it is true that a Tunisian
man introduces his future wife to his family, in the tourism
experienced families, almost all Europeans are "introduced" in the hope
of obtaining "donations" and gifts - therefore, a formal introduction
to a man's family is definitely not a sign of seriousness in terms of a
future marriage!
In many regions of Tunisia is an habit that the
future bride will receive a gift from the famliy of the husband, eg. a
silver or golden bracelet.
Conversely, a Tunisian woman will NOT
introduce her future husband to the family, but the man instead will
visit the family on his own and introduces himself and his desire to
marry the woman. |
Bezness Relations
Obstajajo nekatera razmerja, v
katerem beness ozadju je skoraj vedno
obstojece:
- Odnosi
s starejšimi
ženskami
Ceprav Ustanovitelj islamske vere daje
pozitiven zgled, ki bo vedno treba poudariti, dejansko
število
zakonskih zvez med mlajšimi moškimi in
starejše
ženske, je izredno nizko. Starejše ženske, ponuja le malo
družbene sprejemljivosti, še posebej, ce ona ne more postati
otroci anymore.
Financni vidik igra pomembno vlogo, saj
je starejša ženska ponavadi v lasti Evropske lastnine in /
ali
dobil varno delo, in tako predstavlja vsaj za cas, potreben za
pridobitev dovoljenja za prebivanje zaželena izbira.
Ceprav ne redko tudi zelo mlade ženske
porociti starci, poroke med moškim in žensko, ki je vec kot
2
leti starejši od njega, so zelo redka in prakticno zgodi le
z
ženskami iz zahodnih držav.
- Odnosi
z veliko ženskami
Tudi ce tunizijske moški radi
pravijo, da so všec, da denarja, ki so "naložbe" v svoje
ženske,
se prikažejo na njej, je velika razlika med "okrogel" in "debelih" -
debelih žensk v Tuniziji, kot tudi v Evropa, cilj za slab in asteless
šale in družbena sprejemljivost je precej nizka.
Vendar, kot so ženske lahko "žrtev", saj
imajo pogosto nizko samozavest in se dotaknil še posebej, ko
se
pretvarja, da privlacen moški kažejo zanimanje za njo.
- Odnosi z ženskami
locila
Tako kot pri starejših ženskah,
pozitivni primeri iz islamske vere so pogosto opozarjali, vendar v
resnici, dejanski interes za sklenitev zakonske zveze razvezana ženska,
ki je zelo nizka in obicajno le na voljo v kombinaciji s precej starec
razvezanega mlada ženska.
Poleg tega je lahko tak odnos obremenjen
z otroci drugega cloveka, zaradi sprejemanja otrok drugega cloveka je,
s Tunizije moški, zelo nizka, in sicer najmanj.
To se kaže tudi v domaci porok, navadno
za primer, da kadar ženska ponovno poroci, ona bo bolj ali manj opusti
svoje otroke in jih pustiti, bodisi z ocetom ali kje drugje v družini
ženska ali moški, kjer bodo potem zviša.
Locen so ženske, kot tudi, v vecini
primerov preprosto žrtve, ker bo pameten Beznesser hitro pridobiti
dostop do custvenega mati samohranilka, ki želi na eni strani spet, da
imajo popolno družino in na drugi strani pa hrepenela po cloveku .
Vse tri zgoraj omenjene skupine, se raje
'Bezness "ciljev, in clanom
teh skupin bi morale voditi svoje oci particualrly" široko
odprta ".
Družinski obiski
Mnoge evropske ženske napaka
povabilo k družini tunizijskega cloveka in
se tam uvaja kot "bodoco ženo" kot dejanje resnosti -, vendar ni.
V vecini primerov, ženske obiske družine se redno odvijajo,
družina je
seznanjena - in obstajajo celo primeri, v katerih bodo tunizijske žena
predstavljena kot "sestra" ali "bratranec" iz cloveka povabi.
Ceprav je res, da clovek tunizijski uvaja svojo bodoco ženo v
njegovi
družini, v turizmu izkušenih družine, skoraj vsi Evropejci
so
"uvedel" v upanju, da pridobivanje "donacij" in darila - torej, uradno
uvod v cloveka družine definitivno ni znak resnosti glede prihodnjega
zakonske zveze!
V mnogih regijah Tunizije je navada, da bo prihodnja nevesta prejmejo
darilo od famliy od moža, npr. srebro ali zlato zapestnico.
Nasprotno pa bo tunizijski ženska ne uvedejo njen prihodnji mož
družino, toda clovek se bo namesto tega obisk na svojo družino in uvaja
sebe in svojo željo porociti žensko. |
Precautions
Precautions
against Bezness are
possible and even can offer a good protection - if only it starts early
enough.
Since
the below hints are certainly also read by interested parties from
Tunisia, they can only serve as examples - the reader will get the
idea, though, and can then plan for a personal strategy.
- Never talk about
your payroll,
your
personal property or situation - if asked, only give vague answers!
Ideally, you position yourself as a non-wealthy person living together
with a roommate in a little apartment and the holiday is a result of
many months of strict saving.
>> In
the relationship
with a Tunisian woman, it is not so easy because, according to Tunisian
law, the husband is obliged to provide for his wife, without any buts
and ifs - if a woman then inquires about his assets, is does not have
to be a sign of Bezness, but the woman only wants to make sure that he
can offer a "secure existence". The man should, however, present
himself as a "normal" worker with an income just sufficient to provide
for a family
Note: Even when she
is married, the Tunisian
woman normally retains her salary for herself, the man is always
obligated to pay for his wifes proper living conditions.
- Never leave behind valuable items
at
the end of the holiday "until the next time", which specifically
relates to computers, cameras, telephones and personal papers.
This will result in an unspoken obligation to return, something, that
one later does not really want anymore - not to mention the risk that,
even when one returns, one might never see the things again.
- Point out good relationship to
your
family!
It is absolutely
normal in Tunisia, to counsel with the family and get advice from them.
If you show, that your relationship to your own family is very close,
it gives the signal that you are not am "easy" target and it might not
be enough for a man to convince you, but also possibly your father,
brother or uncle.
>> In
the relationship with a Tunisian
woman, the man can always assume that the males of her family will ask
for an interview and their recommendation for the woman will depend on
this interview.
- Under
no circumstances, tell the
potential
husband that you could or would contribute to the costs of the wedding
ceremony or the ticket cost for the flight to Europe!
The woman should
also express her ideas of a wedding gift from her husband.
The financing of the wedding party in Tunisia is the up to the man - he
or his family will even take out loans for a proper wedding; the ticket
costs for flights to Europe and obtaining the visa should also be
solely be imposed onto him.
A Tunisian man who
is serious with
a woman, will never ask or even accept money from her, but save, even
on a low wage, the money for the wedding.
Golden jewelry Gifts
(ring, bracelet, etc.) by the man to the woman at the wedding are
absolutely normal and expected, since they express the value of the
bride.
>> In
a relationship with a Tunisian woman,
things are exactly the opposite - it is expected that the man pays for
all expenses, because it is common custom - and, actually, he even has
to provide the housing and the furniture.
A European man has
here therefore a definite disadvantage...
More
Precautions
- Learn the Tunisian
language!
...and don't show it - in almost all cases, "Bezness" can be unveiled
by
simply listening to the conversations of the man with his friends,
family members etc., not only , when they are unaware that you
understand what they are talking about.
- Always, in a closer relationship,
demand to see the ID card (Carte Identité Nationale)!
Every tunisian
citizen must have the CIN on them at all times.
This offers the possibility of obtaining and verifying the real name
and birth date - because both are used very flexible in talks in
Tunisia ( "Artist name", "Nickname").
If then, at a later
date, a problem should rise up, you will have at least the guarantee
that you know the real name and dat of birth.
Relationships to
young persons: The age of adulthood in Tunisia is 20 years - relations
to younger persons should generally be avoided!
Info: Men below 35
may, and usually will, be drafted for a year of mandatory military
service in Tunisia.
- If
you have the opportunity, talk
to
other Tunisians!
Tunisians know their fellow countrymen quite well and in most cases,
someone will feel honored to give you his opinion about a relationship.
And even if one should not rely on such an opinion, it might give you
hints and/or confirms suspiciouns and helps to become more aware and
cautious.
You should not talk
with people, though, who are in
close contact with the person in question. Rather consider to talk to
Taxi drivers, apartment landlords, etc. - they see a lot and have lots
of experience.
This also applies to
the ubiquitous policemen,
which might, on an explicite demand, even suggest sometimes to be
"careful" with an acquaintance!
- Do
not shy away from a "loyalty
test"!
In a "loyalty test", a friend, acquaintance, or professional agency
will try to start up a relations ship with the target person by using
SMS, instant messaging, telephone or even a "random" personal meeting.
To put it quite clearly - such a test will succeed in more than 90 of
100 cases and show that the target person will, without big problems,
engage in another relationship as well.
The hope of "But
mine
is different" will then turn out, within a short time, to be just a
dilusion, and this will be quite a disappointment - but it will save
the person from an even bigger disappointment and significant emotional
and financial loss later.
And even when the
assignment of an
agency might cost 50 of 100 euros, this sum is, compared to a possible,
even very likely, loss of thousands later, well invested.
In
certain cases, it will even make sense to seek the assistance of
investigation agencies - again, it can save huge amounts of money and a
lot of emotional distress! |
Varnostni ukrepi
Previdnostni ukrepi proti Bezness
so možne in celo lahko nudi dobro
zašcito - samo ce se zacne dovolj zgodaj.
Od spodaj namigih so zagotovo tudi berejo z zainteresiranimi stranmi iz
Tunizije, lahko služi samo kot primer - bralec bo dobil idejo, ceprav,
in lahko nato nacrtuje za osebno strategijo.
- Nikoli ne govori o svoji placilni
listi,
vaše osebno premoženje ali položaj - ce se
vprašal, le
daje nejasne odgovore!
V idealnem primeru se položaj sebe, kot
da ni bogati osebo, ki živi skupaj s sostanovalko v majhno stanovanje
in pocitnice so rezultat vecmesecnih strogega varcevanja.
>> V odnosu z žensko
Tunizije, to ni tako enostavno, ker, po tunizijski zakonodaji, je mož
dolžan poskrbeti za svojo ženo, brez izgovorjavo in oklijevanja - ce se
ženska potem vpraša o svojem premoženju, se ne morajo biti
znak
Bezness, ampak ženska samo želi zagotoviti, da lahko ponudi "varno
obstoj". Clovek bi morala, pa predstavi sebe kot "normalnega" delavca z
dohodki ravno še zadošcajo za zagotovitev družino
Opomba: Tudi ce je ona porocena,
tunizijski ženska ponavadi ohrani svojo placo zase, clovek je vedno
dolžan placati za svoje wifes ustreznih življenjskih pogojev.
- Nikoli ne zapustiti
vrednih
predmetov na koncu
pocitnic "do naslednjic", ki se posebej nanaša na
racunalnike,
kamere, telefoni in osebne dokumente.
To bo povzrocilo Neizrecen obveznost
vracanja, nekaj, da ena kasneje v resnici ne želi vec - da ne omenjam,
da je tveganje, tudi ce ena vrne, nikoli ne bi videli stvari znova.
- Poudarite dobre
povezave z
vašo družino!
To je povsem normalno v Tuniziji, do zagovornika z družino in dobili
nasvet od njih.
Ce kažejo, da je vaš odnos do
lastne družine je zelo blizu, daje signal, da niste am "easy", cilj in
ga morda ne bo dovolj za cloveka, da vas prepricani, verjetno pa tudi
tvoj oce, brat in stric .
>> V odnosu z žensko Tunizije, se
lahko clovek vedno predpostavimo, da bodo samci družine zaprosi za
razgovor in njihova priporocila za ženske bo odvisna od tega intervjuja.
- Pod nobenim pogojem,
povej
potencialne mož, ki bi
lahko ali pa bi prispevala k stroškom porocni obred ali
strošek vozovnico za let v Evropo!
Ženska mora tudi izraziti svoje ideje za porocno darilo od svojega moža.
Financiranje svate v Tuniziji, je do
cloveka - on ali njegove družine bo celo vzeti posojila za pravilno
poroko, vozovnic za lete v Evropo in pridobitev vizuma je treba tudi
treba uvesti le na njega.
Tunisian clovek, ki je resna z žensko,
nikoli ne bomo spraševali, ali celo sprejemajo denar od nje,
vendar razen, tudi na nizke place, denar za poroko.
Golden nakit Darila (prstan, zapestnico,
itd), ki ga clovek, ki je ženska na poroki, so popolnoma normalno in
pricakovano, saj izražajo vrednost neveste.
>> V odnosu z žensko Tunizije,
stvari so ravno nasprotno - je pricakovati, da clovek placuje za vse
stroške, saj je skupna meri - in, pravzaprav, je celo mora
zagotoviti stanovanja in pohištva.
Evropska clovek je tu zato dolocen položaj ...
Vec Varnostni ukrepi
- Vec o tem, tunizijski
jezik!
... in ne kažejo, da - v skoraj vseh
primerih, "Bezness" lahko predstavila s preprosto poslušanje
pogovori clovek s svojim prijateljem, družinskim clanom itd, ne le, ko
se ne zavedajo, da ste razumeli, kaj oni so zvocni film približno.
- Vedno, v
tesnejši
odnos,
povpraševanje za prikaz kartico ID (Carte
Identité
Nationale)!
Vsak tunizijski državljan mora imeti CIN na njih ves cas.
Ta ponuja možnost za pridobitev in
preverjanje pravo ime in datum rojstva - ker sta oba uporabljena zelo
prožna v pogovorih v Tuniziji ( "Artist name", "Nadimek").
Ce se potem, na poznejši datum,
je treba problem dvignil, boš imel vsaj zagotavlja, da
poznate
pravo ime in dat rojstva.
Razmerja za mlade osebe: starost
odraslosti v Tuniziji, je 20 let - odnosi z mlajšimi osebami
na
splošno je treba izogibati!
Info: Moški pod 35 lahko, in
ponavadi, je zasnovan za leto obveznega služenja vojaškega
roka
v Tuniziji.
- Ce
imate možnost, se posvetujte z
drugim Tunizijcev!
Tunizijcev poznajo svoje rojake precej
dobro in v vecini primerov, se bodo pocutili nekdo pocašcen,
da
vam svoje mnenje o razmerju.
In tudi ce se ne bi smela
zanašati na to mnenje, morda vam namigi in / ali potrdi
suspiciouns in pomaga, da bolje spoznajo in previdne.
Ne smete govoriti z ljudmi, ceprav, ki
so v tesnem stiku z osebo, na vprašanje. Nasprotno meni, da
se
pogovorite s taxi voznikom, stanovanje najemodajalci, itd - vidijo
veliko in imajo veliko izkušenj.
To velja tudi za vseobsegajoci
policistov, ki bi lahko na zahtevo explicite, vcasih celo kažejo, da so
"previdni" z znanca!
- Ne
izogibati "test lojalnosti"!
V "test lojalnosti", bo prijatelja,
znanca, ali poklicna agencija poskusite za zagon odnosov z ladjo ciljno
osebo, z uporabo SMS, takojšnje sporocanje, telefonu ali
celo
"nakljucno" osebna srecanja.
Da bi to cisto jasno - tako test bo
uspelo v vec kot 90 100 primerov in kažejo, da bo cilj oseba, brez
velikih težav, sodelujejo v drugem razmerju, kot tudi.
Upanje, "Ampak moj je drugacen", potem
se bo izkazalo, v kratkem casu, da se samo dilusion, in to bo cisto
razocaranje - vendar bo rešila oseba še vecje
razocaranje
in pomembne custveno in financno izgubo pozneje.
In tudi ce bi dodelitev agencije
stroškov 50 od 100 evrov, ta znesek je v primerjavi z možno,
celo zelo verjetno, izgubo vec tisoc pozneje, tudi vlagala.
V nekaterih primerih celo smiselno
poiskati pomoc preiskovalnih agencij - spet, lahko shranite ogromne
kolicine denarja in veliko custvene stiske!
| Fooled?
First a warning - if a woman was
trapped by a
Bezness man, and finds it out and then wants to terminate the
relationship, she should be cautious.
In the years 2008 and 2009, there
have been several incidents in which women in such a "last debate" were
raped, physically injured and in one case even killed.
To such a
debate, a woman should therefore never go alone (take a friend,
ideally, a male, with you) and, in particular, never stay alone with
the ex-lover in a remote or non-public place (eg. an apartment).
Even
if a dangerous situation is not always and automatically imminent, one
should be very cautious and prevent any situations that could escalate!
Police
In
the case of threats, but also fraud or theft, immediately inform the
police. They are used to this kind of crimes and will usually show no
mercy. And even if the person should mange to get away this time, he
won't, if it happens again - and so, informing the local police not
only can protect oneself, but also possible victims in the future!
Even
when you have the impression that, in a conversation with the police,
they do not believe you or try to blame you - the police in the tourist
areas know such situations from daily experience and will pursue their
task to help and protect tourists using their best efforts. There is
absolutely no reason for shame or restrain!
Internet
Forums
And
you should also consider one more step to - namely, to go public and go
to one of the relevant internet forums where you can report this
(negative) experience, either in anonymous form (without names) or by
putting an entry into a "black list of Bezness men of Tunisia".
In
forums, you will often hear the assertion that such reports are made by
women who only want to "hurt" a man by telling lies about him.
This
assertion, however, is usually wrong, according to all actual
experiences, because on one hand, false accusations in discussions
forums will, in almost all cases, be reveiled quite fast (or true
accusations confirmed) by other forum members, and secondly, one is
well aware that a "mistake" in one particular case does not
automatically constitute a wrong doing in another case - but it is
certainly a strong hint to a potential successor to be very cautious
with this person!
On
the WorldWideWeb, there are
several discussion forums in
different languages, all of which deal as well with love relationships
with Tunisians.
Here
is a selection of the most famous forums dealing with this topic
| Sledil?
Najprej
opozorilo - ce je bil ujet ženska, ki ga Bezness clovek, in
ugotovi, da je, in potem hoce prekiniti odnos, je treba biti previden.
V letih 2008 in 2009 je prišlo do vec incidentov,
v katerih
"so
bile ženske v takih" zadnji razpravi posiljena, telesno
poškodovanih in v enem primeru pa celo ubili.
Za take razprave, ženska je zato nikoli ne gre sam (sprejme prijatelja,
idealno, moški, s tabo), in predvsem, nikoli ne ostanejo
sami z
ex-lover v oddaljenih ali ne-javnem mestu (npr. stanovanje).
Tudi ce nevaren položaj ni vedno in samodejno neizbežna, mora biti eden
biti zelo previden in prepreciti razmere, ki se lahko stopnjujejo!
Policija
V
primeru ogroženosti, ampak tudi goljufije in tatvine, takoj obvestiti
policijo. Uporabljajo se za to vrsto kaznivih dejanj in obicajno ne
kažejo nobenega usmiljenja. In tudi ce bi oseba, mange pobegniti tem
casu je ne bo, ce se to zgodi še enkrat - in tako,
obvešcanje lokalne policije, ne samo, da lahko
zašciti
samega sebe, temvec tudi morebitne žrtve v prihodnosti!
Tudi ce imate obcutek, da je v pogovoru s policijo, ne verjamem ti, ali
poskusite krivim tebe - policija v turisticnih obmocjih vedo
takšnih situacijah iz vsakodnevnih izkušenj, in
bo
še naprej njihova naloga pomagati in zašcititi
turistom
uporabo njihovih najboljših moceh. Ni nobenega razloga za
sram
ali omejujejo!
Internet Forumi
In
morate razmisliti tudi en korak k - namrec, da gredo javnosti in iti
na eno od pomembnih forumih internetu, kjer si lahko o tej (negativne)
izkušnje, bodisi v anonimni obliki (brez imena), ali z
uvedbo
zacetek " crni seznam Bezness ljudje Tunizija ".
V forumih, boste pogosto slišali trditev, da so taka
porocila,
ki jih ženske, ki samo želijo "poškodovati" clovek, ki ga
govori
laži o njem.
Ta trditev pa je navadno narobe, glede na vse dejanske
izkušnje,
saj je na eni strani, lažnih obtožb v razpravah forumih, bo, v skoraj
vseh primerih, se reveiled precej hitro (ali res obtožb potrjeno), z
ostalimi clani foruma, in drugic, ena se dobro zaveda, da je "napaka" v
enem konkretnem primeru ne pomeni avtomaticno napacno pocetje, v drugem
primeru - je pa zagotovo mocan namig, da potencial naslednik zelo
previden s to osebo!
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